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Elf in Tail Guard

12th Mar 2015, 3:03 PM
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Elf in Tail Guard
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Songgu Kwon 12th Mar 2015, 3:03 PM edit delete
Songgu Kwon
I'll post the latest page tomorrow.

Beach elf here is in what's referred to as "Posta Coda Longa e Distessa" or "Long Tail Guard" in Italian Long Sword. The German system has a very similar guard called "Nebenhut", meaning "Near Ward".

This stance basically says, "hey I'm exposing my whole body here, want to try your luck?" while being in a good position to quickly make a rising cut. It also distorts the opponent's perception of your sword's reach since it's held behind you.

This is the best source I've found on line for the basics of Medieval Italian Long Sword fighting:
Chicago Swordplay Guild

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quetzlsacatanango 12th Mar 2015, 3:39 PM edit delete reply
quetzlsacatanango
You are using Bonetti’s Defense against me, ah?
I thought it fitting considering the rocky terrain.
Naturally, you must suspect me to attack with Capo Ferro?
Naturally, but I find that Thibault cancels out Capo Ferro. Don’t you?
Unless the enemy has studied his Agrippa… which I have.
Songgu Kwon 12th Mar 2015, 3:42 PM edit delete reply
Songgu Kwon
Ha ha! With her, it's probably best to cut straight to the poison drinking game. :)

She's actually much better with a sword than with a bow. Her enemies often make the mistake of closing the distance, thinking they got the jump on the archer. Nope. Big mistake. :P

This apparently happened sometimes at the Battle of Agincourt and Crecy when the French knights attacked English longbowmen. Some of those archers were pretty handy at melee too, apparently.

Of course, it helped that the French knights were really tired by the time they reached the english lines.
Mayyday 12th Mar 2015, 3:46 PM edit delete reply
Mayyday
Watch out for iocane powder!
Wood 12th Mar 2015, 5:00 PM edit delete reply
The funny thing I noticed on medieval fencing manual is that very often they seize the blade with their bare hands. Like, one hand on the handle, one hand on the blade, or even both hands on the blade, using the sword like a hammer, or a hook to catch the opponent's neck.

Apparently it's possible to do this without cutting your hand, there are lots of video on youtube of people demonstrating this with a very shar sword.

And yet you never see this on movies (or comics, for that matter) I guess it's so counter-intuitive that the public at large would deem it "unrealistic".
Songgu Kwon 12th Mar 2015, 5:47 PM edit delete reply
Songgu Kwon
Yeah, the technique is referred to as "half swording". If you grip the blade by putting pressure on the flats instead of the edge, it's doable, especially if you're wearing gauntlets.

This sort of technique became common in the late middle ages as many sword blades at this point had evolved to taper dramatically to come to a very pointy tip.

Stabilizing the blade with your other hand gives the weapon more rigidity and better point control for piercing through your opponent's weak spots like gaps in armor and visor.
gibberish 12th Mar 2015, 9:22 PM edit delete reply
gibberish
"Yeah, the technique is referred to as "half swording". If you grip the blade by putting pressure on the flats instead of the edge, it's doable, especially if you're wearing gauntlets." - You're talking about sword fighting right?
Songgu Kwon 12th Mar 2015, 10:29 PM edit delete reply
Songgu Kwon
Contrary to popular belief, "half swording" does not cause blindness... that is, unless it's used to stab through your opponent's helmet visor. :P
gibberish 13th Mar 2015, 12:25 PM edit delete reply
gibberish
The JAMA did a study and found that eye stabbings result in blindness 100% of the time. 25% of the time it leaves you with a cool looking, whitish-blue eye that 10% of the time causes villianhood.
Songgu Kwon 13th Mar 2015, 10:36 PM edit delete reply
Songgu Kwon
Any kind of disfigurement has a chance of causing villainhood. I once had a sunburn on my face from a canoeing trip that was so bad that I seriously contemplated turning to a life of super crime.
Wood 15th Mar 2015, 7:31 AM edit delete reply
How about grabbing your opponent's blade with your bare hand, like in this 1300's manuscript ?
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ms_I33_fol_16v.jpg#/media/File:Ms_I33_fol_16v.jpg

(although for all I know, maybe the Latin text says "don't do that")
Songgu Kwon 15th Mar 2015, 3:08 PM edit delete reply
Songgu Kwon
I just looked through my book on interpreting the Ms I33 and I don't think the authors cover that one. It seems like grabbing the opponent's blade the way the priest is doing in the illustration would be a very bad idea indeed!

This might be more viable if your opponent was armed with an estoc, a sword type that would've been around during the time this manual was created. An estoc is specialized for thrusting and generally lack a cutting edge.

Could this be an example of the unknown author of the Ms I33's sense of humor???

Medieval Sword & Shield
horsesilly 12th Mar 2015, 5:44 PM edit delete reply
horsesilly
-is completely hooked-
Adore the series so much, your art is fantastic!
Songgu Kwon 12th Mar 2015, 5:49 PM edit delete reply
Songgu Kwon
Thanks, Sillyhorse! I mean Horsesilly! :P
Centcomm 12th Mar 2015, 8:40 PM edit delete reply
Centcomm
wow.. love the pose! :D
you art its soo damn good :D
Songgu Kwon 13th Mar 2015, 5:46 AM edit delete reply
Songgu Kwon
:D !
Jonathan Allen 12th Mar 2015, 9:34 PM edit delete reply
That's not Nebenhut. John Clements first proposed that theory, but later we learned that Nebenhut is vertical.

It is called Dragon's Tail in English systems, which is pretty cool.
Songgu Kwon 12th Mar 2015, 10:17 PM edit delete reply
Songgu Kwon
Ooh... Dragon's Tail. I like that. You're correct, Nebenhut points the tip down more and the angle isn't straight back but it's very similar to the Italian tail guard, in my non expert opinion. ;)

Nebenhut
warriorneedsfood 12th Mar 2015, 11:24 PM edit delete reply
warriorneedsfood
Wow! A babe in swimwear AND has proper form!
warriorneedsfood 12th Mar 2015, 11:26 PM edit delete reply
warriorneedsfood
You are going to dig my next comic I'm working on. It's about Galeazzo of Mantua, and Fiore dei Librei is a main character.
Songgu Kwon 12th Mar 2015, 11:58 PM edit delete reply
Songgu Kwon
No fucking way!! That's gonna be all kinds of awesome, dude! I look forward to reading this comic! :)
chris-tar 13th Mar 2015, 9:23 AM edit delete reply
chris-tar
Hey Songgu. Great update!
I created some fan art for Elf and posted it on my comic in support of your Kickstarter campaign.
I really want a copy of that book!
Songgu Kwon 13th Mar 2015, 12:17 PM edit delete reply
Songgu Kwon
Wow! That's bad ass, chris-tar! And you've chosen a very interesting hypothetical scenario to depict. Thanks, man! :D

Brock Trueblood Elf Fan Art

I'll grab it and add it to my fan art page, if you don't mind!
dougwarner59 13th Mar 2015, 3:34 PM edit delete reply
dougwarner59
Elf comic has the best inking ever!!! I am more in awe than I am jealous...but not much.
Songgu Kwon 13th Mar 2015, 10:31 PM edit delete reply
Songgu Kwon
Thanks Doug!
Skweeee 13th Mar 2015, 4:41 PM edit delete reply
Skweeee
Beautiful!
I like the link! I'm actually going to spend some time with it.
Songgu Kwon 13th Mar 2015, 10:32 PM edit delete reply
Songgu Kwon
Cool! If you need advise on equipment, PM me!